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It could be possible the outside temperature is not low enough now to need the glowplugs when starting, so the glowplug light will not come on. Did it come on during the winter ? Good to see the engine light is sorted - that problem (MAF) may have been causing running problems.
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I do not know if the stars mean anything. It looks as if EYPC is storm grey metallic. Check the bonnet with a magnet to see if it is steel, but it is likely to be aluminium and stone chips on it are not likely to rust or get worse. I would change the brake fluid in the clutch and see what happens, it is likely to get a bit lighter once the old dirty fluid is removed. I find the easiest way is to use a Mityvac to suck the fluid out of the slave cylinder bleed screw (needs opening quite a lot) whilst ensuring the fluid level in the reservoir does not go too low so air is sucked in. The clutch in our C5 2007 is a bit heavier than our C3 and C4 but this is not due to its mileage/use since the C5 is on lower miles. I had a high mileage (150k) Saab that had a heavy clutch and this may have been hardening of the clutch cover fingers and this did get lighter on clutch replacement. From the eurocarparts website you can get an idea of the cost of the clutch parts and a dual mass flywheel since this is likely to also need changing but you are likely to be looking at about £400 + fitting - so maybe about £700 total. You may be able to see the rack input shaft from under the car at the driver's side or from inside the car by pulling up the rubber cover at the bottom of the steering wheel column. In this topic there is a picture from Parkesie which shows how bad the corrosion can get http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/topic/20872-power-steering-leaking-fluid/?do=findComment&comment=75684 If you can remove a cover to see the timing belt and check its condition and look for any oil leaks or coolant leaks or pulley wear which could be affecting it, it may give you confidence to let it last. I used to do this each year on our 2003 C3 since it only needed 2 bolts removing to undo the top cover. If you are not sure about its condition and intend keeping the car a few years, then at some point you will need to replace the belt/any pulleys/tensioner/water pump - so you may prefer to do it sooner rather than later and then not worry about it as long as you have the car. Some time ago we had a member who did let their C5 go over the mileage by quite a bit but then it snapped and needed a lot of repairs to the engine. Note that the time/mileage in the Citroen Maintenance and Warranty Guide is for Citroen parts so if you replaced them with other parts they may have a different maintenance frequency.
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Welcome to the forum. If you bleed the clutch (which should be done when replacing the brake fluid) the clutch pedal may be a bit lighter. If this does not help then a new clutch should sort it - but you may prefer to wait until the old one is worn out. On one of the door pillars will be a sticker with the tyre type and pressures. The paint code is also on this sticker and the RPO number. As an example on our C3 the paint code is EXLD. The RPO number will also be in your Maintenance and Warranty book. If you go to a Citroen dealer and use your VIN they can sell you a touch up paint pen with the colour and lacquer for about £10 to £20 - these have a small brush in the cap. The official way to check the eolys level is to drain it out of the tank and measure the quantity. You may be able to see the level in the tank which will be underneath near the fuel tank. The car calculates the level by the number of fuel tank fills and does not actually measure it. When it calculates the level to be low a warning message should be given. You should have a look at the steering rack input shaft to see if it is rusty - if so it is worthwhile cleaning this and greasing it since a common problem is the shaft seal leaking which to fix needs a recon/new rack. In the C5 technical section there is a Common Problems pinned topic that is worth looking at.
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To find out what is causing the engine management light to come on you really need to use a code reader since it could be anything. Without doing this you can only replace lots of parts in the hope of finding the right one before spending too much time and money.
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Is the temp sensor the right one from a dealer - if not it may be giving the wrong resistance and putting the engine light on. It could now be in limp mode with the light on which will limit the performance. Did you disturb anything else when changing it that has not been put back ? If it is not the sensor or anything else obvious and the light does not go off after a few on/offs of the ignition then you may need to use a code reader to find the fault and then delete the code. Did you get all the coolant back in and the air bled out ? The Haynes manual for the C5 gives the thermostat opening setting as 83°C for a diesel so it could be the same for your car. If so you would expect the engine to be a bit above this. I do not know what temp the engine fan would cut in at but typically this is about 96°C.
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Probably but at the low ambient temps when first starting it may not show up on your gauge until warmed up a bit. If the sensor is ok, a low running temp is often due to a faulty thermostat. You could measure the resistance across the temperature sensor contacts and when cold you would expect to see around 2000 to 3000 ohms (depending on the sensor) which will reduce as it warms up to maybe around 200 to 300 ohms at about 90°C when the thermostat should open. If you run the engine with the sensor wiring disconnected it may cause a fault code to come up so any checks should be done when the engine is not running. If you did get another sensor, you could simply plug it in to the electrical connector without fitting it but still touching an earth point. This test would see if it makes a difference to starting. If you want to get a code reader this one from Gendan seems good value at £39 and gives some engine live data. You would need to check if it covers your car since diesel EOBD was not required until 2004 https://www.gendan.co.uk/product_FXNT200.html I do not know if your checks on the relay are normal maybe another member will comment on it.
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Welcome to the forum. First thing to check would be the engine coolant temperature sensor using a code reader with live data. When the engine is cold it should read about the ambient temperature, so about 5 to 10°C. Then once the engine is warmed up about 95°C. If it is reading high it may not be switching on the glow plugs when needed on a cold day and also it may not be giving the correct fuel/air ratio. You could also check the inlet air temperature (IAT or AIT) to see if this is ok at the same time - it will tend to be a bit above ambient once the engine has warmed up, possibly around 30°C.
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Welcome to the forum. It could be the previous owner has set the voice level to minimum whilst a command was being given (turned sound down) and this has been memorised and needs to be turned back up again during a command or somewhere in the sat nav menu the sound level has been set to minimum.
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I have moved this topic into a subforum since ones outside of one do not show after 2 days and are then difficult to find.
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Eolys Fluid Low Level Signal Post Defap
paul.h replied to Old Mosher's topic in Problems and Fixes - C5
I think the adblue system reduces nitrogen oxides unlike the eolys system. -
In the Haynes manual for the Peugeot 406 covering the 2.2 hdi I seem to remember it saying to clean the dpf. If it is the engine management light that is coming on or just a warning message, then these should probably clear once the fault has gone but you may need to switch the ignition on/off/run the car a few times. If it is a warning the eolys fluid level is low then clearing that is not so easy once the fluid has been topped up. A Lexia diagnostic will be needed to tell the car the level has been topped up but on early cars it may need the eolys ecu replacing - however, people on the forum have said that provided there is eolys fluid in its tank then it will continue to be added despite getting the messages. This is since the eolys level is not measured but is calculated on the number of fuel tank fills triggered by the magnets in the filler cap actioning a switch when it is removed/refitted. On the drains - you should not put anything down ones that go to rivers or other water courses apart from water - this will include road drains. Drains from your house that go to the sewage works for treatment are ok for normal household water soluble things but not things like oils which should go to your council recycling centre. Any solids should be ok to go in your waste bin for landfill unless classed as special waste.
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Welcome to the forum. Since the engine management light has come on there will be stored fault codes which should be read using a code reader. There will also be freeze frame data when the fault occurred that should be read by the code reader. These should give a good indication of what is wrong - without this diagnostic check you would only be guessing. You could find that some code readers may not work on your van since the requirement for EOBD on diesels was not needed until 2004. Have a look in your handbook for the meaning of the car and padlock symbols, they are not listed in the ones for our cars but could be something like the key fob battery needs replacing. If you are having a diagnostic check at a Citroen dealer they should also be able to check this.
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Welcome to the forum. This is a new question for the site so I am not sure if there will be the knowledge here to help. An internet search came up with this company, they do not list anything for the Xsara but they may be able to provide useful advice http://www.cituninguk.com/serv_turbocharging.aspx In their price list for a C2 1.6 petrol turbo conversion they quote about £7000 so it is not going to be cheap - so you are most likely to buy a car with the required performance such as a 2 litre engine for far less than this and it would also be easier to insure.
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The touch up pens can be bought from any Citroen dealer so you do not need to go through ebay. I forgot to mention, uploading pictures does not work on the forum but using a link to another site does work as you have found.
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If you are lucky the air bag light may be on if a front seat has been moved and a connector under it disturbed - if not then coastline has outlined what needs doing. Beware that whilst the light is on the air bags are unlikely to work if needed and a code reader that covers air bags may be needed to turn the light off - it may also give a clue as to the problem if your mechanic does not know.
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In the C5 Technical section there is a pinned topic on Common Problems to have a look at. For the 2008 on C5 these are usually marked as C5 (X7) in the title. I can not remember seeing anything on bad tyre wear - if you already have this then maybe something in the suspension is worn or the tracking is out. I think a couple of people have mentioned the sat nav resetting but do not remember if anything has been done to fix it.
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When you take the filter box lid off the top of the filter will look clean but the dirty side is underneath.
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The adverts I have seen for companies that will clean them are not much different to the cost of a new one. Some appear to do a chemical clean and others use a high temperature oven to burn off the ash. So the jet wash appears to be a good first option.
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If you visited your Citroen dealer (or another) bodyshop they would possibly charge about £200 or maybe more to paint it. So one from a breakers on ebay in the right colour could well be the lowest cost option, but see one before buying since it could have some damage/scratches. You can also get touch up paints which would hide the white bits but the scratches would still be there unless filled in first. The Citroen ones come in a nail varnish size container with a brush in the top so the paint can be applied quite easily (do this in several thin coats allowing to dry for maybe 30 minutes between each one, followed by several coats of the lacquer) - as an example on ebay for shark grey colour but the price seems a bit high http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Genuine-Citroen-Touch-Up-Paint-Pen-Shark-Grey-KTP-Inc-Brush-/400736679676?_trksid=p2054897.l4275
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Citroen Maintenance And Warranty Guide Changes
paul.h replied to paul.h's topic in General Discussion and Nonsense
For the C4 1.6 hdi 115 bhp, Citroen now give 1 year or 16000 miles via a service plan letter that comes with the car or from the My Citroen site - but you do not know what needs doing. If you have an adblue hdi this would need refilling each year. The older 1.6 hdi 110 bhp was 12500 miles or 2 years - but at this mileage it is effectively each year and with the possible turbo problems is not worth risking any longer. -
Citroen Maintenance And Warranty Guide Changes
paul.h replied to paul.h's topic in General Discussion and Nonsense
Without knowing what the service should include it makes it difficult to see if a correct service has been done. I also thought that car manufacturers had to provide information so people outside the dealership could maintain cars, never mind owners looking after their cars. If you use the Citroen service box that does not give service requirements either so trying to find out what should be done and when is not going to be possible/easy. You could base it on older maintenance guides and it is worthwhile making a copy of them before changing a car - but do things like timing belts/filters/dpfs/eolys fluid/spark plugs still have the same replacement frequency. -
It could be carbon build up on the throttle body and plate needs cleaning off. You can use a carburettor spray or a rag soaked in white spirit (turps). The air filter box will first need removing (jubilee clip and a quarter turn plastic clip at the side to undo). Whilst the box is off, take the lid off and check if the filter needs replacing.
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Welcome to the forum. If the accelerator pedal is electronic and not a cable one, it could be wear inside it. I replaced the one on our 2003 petrol C3 since that was hard to control the revs from idle to 1500 rpm and made setting off difficult and was ok after that. In 2013 the pedal for it was £52, in 2007 it was £40.
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Not suggesting this applies in your case but many people do not worry too much about checking their cars until forced by the MOT and then it will get serviced and checked over. So often problems come to light at the last minute.